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SVT10th
10-09-2013, 10:27 AM
A guy just pulled into work with a brand new C7 Corvette Stingray.

Damn, that is a beautiful car. And the exhaust tone is AMAZING.
I don't care that people say it's too derivative of other sports cars -- it's a gorgeous piece of automotive art, and probably the only Corvette I would consider owning since the days of the old Stingrays.
1879
(sorry for the crappy pic)

390gtconv
10-09-2013, 10:48 AM
Now you ready for a station wagon Vette?
http://www.gizmag.com/callaway-2014-corvette-wagon/26701/
Don't think so.
Still think best ever as '67 with stinger hood, and a 427.

chachee52
10-09-2013, 01:19 PM
Now you ready for a station wagon Vette?
http://www.gizmag.com/callaway-2014-corvette-wagon/26701/
Don't think so.
Still think best ever as '67 with stinger hood, and a 427.
I saw that wagon online the other day!! :D
Jen also wants the '67 with a 427, but I think she needs a couple more jobs to be able to get one.
As for the new one, from the pic, the rear window line just looks odd to me. I haven't seen any other pics online (haven't really looked for them either yet, maybe this afternoon when my patient's don't show up)

TorchredSVT
10-09-2013, 03:21 PM
wiating to form an official opinion of it until i see one in person

however, all of the info i have seen online indicates it's a hell of a car.....can't slight it at all for that.

Jibber
10-09-2013, 04:01 PM
Someday......

LILBLKSNAKE
10-09-2013, 05:41 PM
Saw one already getting hammered at New England Dragway this past Saturday. Sounds awesome!!1880

07 stang gt
10-10-2013, 06:51 AM
Very sexy front end, hate the Camaro looking rear end. Heard a rumor the other day from Ford that the new 2015 Mustang (Shelby version) will be called the SVT Cobra,since Carrol is no longer with us.Keep you posted.

Jibber
10-10-2013, 08:47 AM
Saw one already getting hammered at New England Dragway this past Saturday. Sounds awesome!!1880

DId you talk to the guy? what were his impressions?

On a side note.... I think a crash would void his warranty....

TorchredSVT
10-10-2013, 09:00 AM
they don't make that much power, search on youtube for baseline dyno numbers. They are usually in the 400/410 range from the few i have seen.

it's just a very well designed and executed chassis.

Here's an example done by edmonds


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRbKro6cIys

SVT10th
10-10-2013, 01:31 PM
The guy who was driving it said it's 460hp from the factory. So if it's dynoing in the 410rwhp range, it's got a very efficient transmission.

He said he almost pulled the rigger on a Shelby instead. But after seeing the C7, I think he made the right choice. Wayyyy sexier.

390gtconv
10-10-2013, 04:52 PM
The guy who was driving it said it's 460hp from the factory. So if it's dynoing in the 410rwhp range, it's got a very efficient transmission.

He said he almost pulled the rigger on a Shelby instead. But after seeing the C7, I think he made the right choice. Wayyyy sexier.

Wonder who's higher to insure? and or steal?

KARMAN
10-10-2013, 08:36 PM
Buy house with bigger garage.

Jibber
10-10-2013, 10:29 PM
Wayyyy sexier.

This is one of those comments that I have to scratch my head after reading............:confused:...................:D

SVT10th
10-11-2013, 08:42 AM
This is one of those comments that I have to scratch my head after reading............:confused:...................:D

why? -- Im a Mustang guy through and through -- but if somebody offered me a new Shelby or a new C7 -- it would be no contest. The new Vette is -- to me -- the best looking Vette since the 70s. And the latest generation of Mustangs -- while very nice looking, don't have the aggressive purposeful look of say, the the 69-70 Mustang or even our Terminators.

'Course it's moot. I'll never have enough disposable cash to buy one......

TorchredSVT
10-11-2013, 08:48 AM
well the GT500 makes more power and is faster in the 1/4 so its all about perspective

The corvette always has been and always will be an old man's car. Other than the 427 white vert, modern vette's do nothing for me

with that said though, there is no denying that this latest platform has some serious performance capabilities

chachee52
10-11-2013, 01:21 PM
well the GT500 makes more power and is faster in the 1/4 so its all about perspective

The corvette always has been and always will be an old man's car. Other than the 427 white vert, modern vette's do nothing for me

with that said though, there is no denying that this latest platform has some serious performance capabilities
I think Jim's point was that it looked a lot better, not performs better.
But I still can't get into that rear end of the car. From the doors back. Chevy right now just messes up the rear end look of their cars. Look at Camaro, the rear end is just disporportionate to the front. The new Vette is the same.
Now don't get me wrong the last few years Vette I actually liked, this new one just looks funny.

SVT10th
10-11-2013, 01:35 PM
I think Jim's point was that it looked a lot better, not performs better.
But I still can't get into that rear end of the car. From the doors back. Chevy right now just messes up the rear end look of their cars. Look at Camaro, the rear end is just disporportionate to the front. The new Vette is the same.
Now don't get me wrong the last few years Vette I actually liked, this new one just looks funny.

Looks totally different in person. I thought the back end was messed up too, but in person it's not as glaring. Although it should have round tailights, not square ones ripped off the Malibu.

Ian -- I agree that the Corvette has turned into an old mans car -- simply because the price of them went into orbit about 20 years ago. (I remember lots of 30 somethings driving them in the 70s and 80s before the price went crazy.)
But think about it -- who can afford $60,000+ "toys"? (Aside from "rich" kids)
Generally people who have established careers, probably got the kids out of the house, paid the mortgage, etc. So folks well out of their 30s and 40s.
And by the way with the GT500s going for $50K+ now -- who have you noticed buying most of them? Oh yeah, people who have established careers, probably got the kids out of the house, paid the mortgage, etc..... egad.

Dennis O'Shea
10-11-2013, 03:11 PM
Watch the Old guy CrapFound this out the average age of New Mustang buyer is 52 And the average age of new Corvette buyer is 61
well the GT500 makes more power and is faster in the 1/4 so its all about perspective

The corvette always has been and always will be an old man's car. Other than the 427 white vert, modern vette's do nothing for me

with that said though, there is no denying that this latest platform has some serious performance capabilities

Jibber
10-12-2013, 09:27 PM
Watch the Old guy CrapFound this out the average age of New Mustang buyer is 52 And the average age of new Corvette buyer is 61

I could see you driving around in a yellow Vet.

390gtconv
10-18-2013, 07:58 AM
Saw this review posted on line this morning.
http://editorial.autos.msn.com/2014-corvette-stingray-first-drive-review?icid=autos_4508

TorchredSVT
10-18-2013, 09:52 AM
Watch the Old guy CrapFound this out the average age of New Mustang buyer is 52 And the average age of new Corvette buyer is 61

There is no way that stat is true lol

Dennis O'Shea
10-18-2013, 11:17 AM
That Stat was Discussed on the NBC Sports network prior to a Sports car race at Watkins Glenn Dont Shoot the messenger Mag
There is no way that stat is true lol

chachee52
10-18-2013, 01:25 PM
There is no way that stat is true lol
I believe it, for new cars that is.

Dennis O'Shea
10-18-2013, 02:42 PM
Thanks Todd at least someone believes me
I believe it, for new cars that is.

TorchredSVT
10-21-2013, 08:48 AM
All you have to do is go to a car show and see who owns the 2011 - 2013 Mustang 5.0's and you'll see where i am coming from

SVT10th
10-21-2013, 12:10 PM
Mustang 5.0s you might be right. But they're not in the same market segment with corvettes. Who's buying the majority of GT500s and Boss302s? Not 30 year olds for the most part.


Edit -- Found this from Forbes:
"When it comes to demographics, the median age for Mustang buyers has been rising steadily since at least 2001, when it stood at 38. In 2011, the median age of new Mustang buyers was 51, according to data from researcher Strategic Vision."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeanhalliday/2012/02/28/fords-latest-social-media-play-brings-more-muscle-to-its-iconic-mustang/

Jibber
10-21-2013, 01:15 PM
Ed has mentioned this in the past....... The newer "High Dollar" cars are not going to the recent college grads. You need a little bank roll to afford one of them. Only makes sense especially in that segment.

As usual.... Dennis is correct.

ToplessPony94
10-21-2013, 02:00 PM
As usual.... Dennis is correct.

Yup! And he doesn't let it go to his head, either.

TorchredSVT
10-21-2013, 02:25 PM
boss 302's and GT500's I'd say that's definitly the case

but i just don't accept the fact the average mustang GT owner is 50 years old lol.......

SVT10th
10-21-2013, 06:10 PM
You're undoubtedly right. But with a "typical" Mustang GT being a $35-40K car now, it isn't 20 year olds buying them either. Typical buyer is probably well into the 30s.

In 1987 -- at 22 years old -- I bought a brand new GT for $12,700 out the door. It wasn't loaded, but even if it was, I think they only went up to about $15k for a loaded hardtop. Even then that was affordable for a young guy of college graduate age.
Today, GTs are well out of "first new car" range. It's too bad, but then again, the 20 year olds aren't even buying sports cars anyway. They're buying "lifestyle" cars. ick.

Dennis O'Shea
10-21-2013, 06:37 PM
Thanks Jim With Ian I need all the support I can Get The Check is in the mail
Mustang 5.0s you might be right. But they're not in the same market segment with corvettes. Who's buying the majority of GT500s and Boss302s? Not 30 year olds for the most part.


Edit -- Found this from Forbes:
"When it comes to demographics, the median age for Mustang buyers has been rising steadily since at least 2001, when it stood at 38. In 2011, the median age of new Mustang buyers was 51, according to data from researcher Strategic Vision."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeanhalliday/2012/02/28/fords-latest-social-media-play-brings-more-muscle-to-its-iconic-mustang/

Dennis O'Shea
10-21-2013, 06:39 PM
The Only younger people buying Mustangs are the ones buying the yellow Ones Thats because they can't give them away

Ed has mentioned this in the past....... The newer "High Dollar" cars are not going to the recent college grads. You need a little bank roll to afford one of them. Only makes sense especially in that segment.

As usual.... Dennis is correct.